Order-Sensitivity in Presidential Primaries

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I have to agree with Sean Oxendine on this:

But the absolute top of the list is how much the outcome of the race has depended on the ordering of the contests. Imagine, for example, where things would stand if Georgia, Alabama and a few caucus states hadn't moved their dates up to Super Tuesday, but Ohio, Pennsylvania and Texas had, in fact, moved up. This race would likely have been over February 3, with calls for Obama to get out reaching the same crescendo that the calls against Hillary are reaching.

Of course, the whole way we got to this position was Obama's magical "ten in a row" during February. But Maryland, DC, Virginia, Wisconsin, Louisiana, Hawai'i, Maine, Washington and Nebraska were all races that he was supposed to win -- and by large margins at that -- with the arguable exception of Wisconsin. Imagine if those races had instead been Indiana, Kentucky, Rhode Island, West Virginia, and a couple of Super Tuesday states (say, MA and TN). The storyline would be completely different.

What a way to pick a President.

This is a criticism of the whole process, not just of how the Democratic primary does things. It's even clearer for the Republican primary. If Florida had been the first GOP state, followed by New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut, Giuliani might have been the nominee. If Iowa had been followed by certain key Southern states without New Hampshire in between, Huckabee would have had a real chance. If South Carolina had been first, followed by Tennessee and perhaps Georgia, we might have actually seen Fred Thompson doing well in other states. If Michigan had been before Iowa, Romney would have had enough momentum that he could possibly have done a good deal better, and if more Western states were early on he might have had enough to get the momentum necessary to take states he lost by a large margin.

This process is highly sensitive to small changes in the order of states, and that seems to me to be a very bad thing.


Right!! A VERY bad thing and yet there's so much more to know...and remedy;

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Well, I certainly don't share such a narrow view of who can contribute to the Republican party or represent it in a presidential race. Anyone who excludes Lindsay Graham is extreme enough that if that line had appeared at the beginning of the article I would have stopped reading. The only candidate I would have been loath to vote for against anyone in the Democratic lineup was Ron Paul.

Also, while it's true that McCain won some important states only because of the independent vote, two other important things are true. One is that it's way too simplistic to use that as evidence that he couldn't have won this without that or that he wouldn't have won any important states without that. The other is that the independent vote is crucial for winning a general election, and the GOP will be irrelevant if there isn't some chance of earning the independent vote. So there are some good reasons to allow independent voters in primaries, even if there are good reasons not to. I can't see that issue as a moral absolute.

As for the paranoia about the GOP dying, that's not just false. It's lame. Learn some history, and take a look at how many presidents from both parties have represented a position outside the mainstream of the party. It happens quite often. Sometimes it changes the party, usually temporarily, and sometimes it doesn't. Look at the party backlash against Bush's spending and against the perceived liberalism of Harriet Miers.

The problem with Fred Thompson wasn't his not being an evangelical. It was his being too liberal on abortion. He was open to abortion in the first trimester, and pro-lifers won't tolerate that if they can help it.

I also think several of those authors way overestimate the influence of the media. Some underestimate it, particularly with McCain, but don't compensate by pretending McCain won simply because the media liked him and because independents voted in the primaries. There were problems with all these candidates, and certain candidates got ruled out quickly, while others took longer, but eventually people thought they could settle for McCain more than some of the problems of the others, and one thing they were considering was electability, something they really needed to consider this time around given the anti-GOP environment.

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It's funny because it also suffers from observation by other states which would also count as an internal change. It's like quantum mechanics on a ridiculously large scale. I imagine fixing the process is either making it blind (as in the results aren't publicized) or doing it all at the same time like election day.

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