Marriage Supper of the Lamb?

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Here's something I've been wondering about this week. In Revelation 19, an angel announces the marriage of the Lamb with his bride, the gathering of believers. Then he rides out on the white horse, and the angel standing in the sun announces the great supper of God, calling the birds to come eat the flesh of all those who defy God and continue in rebellion, gathering to make a final stand against the army of the Lord. Then they are soundly defeated, and the birds gorge themselves with the flesh of the unrighteous. I don't see anything in this chapter talking about the marriage supper of the Lamb. I see the marriage, and I see the great supper of God. When people talk about the marriage supper of the Lamb, are they talking about this feast of the birds on those who persist in rebellion against God?

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Did you ever get any further with this? I am speaking on Christmas Eve and wanting to bring in the Marriage Supper of the Lamb and noticed the same thing. Few serious scholars seem to suggest they are the same, but without giving reasons.

One thing though - I am using the ESV and it says in verse 9 ...blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb. Are you reading the original when you state that there is nothing about the marriage supper of the Lamb in the chapter, or are you saying there is no description of the marriage supper of the Lamb there - unless it is the birds gorging themselves on dead flesh?

There is an expression in the chapter referring to the marriage supper of the Lamb. But there's no supper that takes place after that's announced except the feast of the birds. Is that the supper, i.e. God's wrath against the nations, or is it just implied that the supper occurs after that? The birds' feast is called a feast, isn't it? It's the same word in the Greek.

Greg Beale calls v.17 a "macabre parody" of the call to the marriage supper. (Since he puts the words in quotes and then has a footnote to Michael Wilcock, these words may be a direct quote from Wilcock, but I don't have his Revelation commentary to check.) Beale then goes on to connect the two in the sense that judgment and salvation are two sides of the same coin. I think there's a good deal more to be explored here, but that's as far as my reading has taken me since this post.

That's about as far as I've got in my thinking (the idea that the two are different sides of the same coin), but have found very few to agree with that. Not sure how much further I'm going to get with that this year!

I'd like to humbly put forth an understanding that is dawning upon me on this topic of the 2 suppers.

The first, the marriage supper of the Lamb involves a groom, a bride and the invited guests of the bride. If the bride is seen as the remnant of God, or the overcomers among the called out whose lives on earth do demonstrate the Kingdom of God, then those who behold their lives are the receipients of the gospel and are the invited guests.
In no way does this scenery tell that it is the finale or the final scene. It is using the allegory of ancient or even middle eastern wedding procedures where the marriage of the bride and the groom have already been arranged and the feast is something that follows, telling of God's way by which he goes about adding souls into his Kingdom until every knee shall bow. So the ongoing remnant principle at work is how I am seeing this wedding supper of the Lamb. This means everytime a soul that beholds the glory of God in those who overcome the world, and is transformed into Christ's likeness, he/she also becomes the bride to be glowing in God's glory.

Secondly, the Great Supper of God that follows is where those who defied the Word of God will be rid of their carnality. They did not behold God's glory in the remnant's lives as in not going to the Lamb's wedding feast.
So their 'flesh' will be forced to be torn and decayed and gorged up until they surrender to Christ, for every knee shall bow and every tongue shall praise God. So it is a supper of God where one is 'feasted' upon. If one does not fall on the Rock and break, the Rock will surely fall on them and grind them to powder! I believe all of this is an allegory representing how God will eventually bring the chance to reduce every person from flesh to Christ, as His goal is to bring all things under Christ. The persistent rebels however will meet eternal condemnation (lake of fire that burns with sulfur) along with the beasts.

Hope this made sense to some others too.

HRS


I don't see an easy way to consider individuals as the bride, since it's the church that's the bride. Individuals are members of the church.

Otherwise, these speculations may be in step with the biblical imagery. That's about as far as I'd go toward affirming them. I'm still not convinced that these are even two suppers.

There's just one supper.

Revelation 19
Psalm 58
Isaiah 25
Ezekiel 39
Zechariah 14
Matthew 25 (the ten virgins)

They're all talking about the same moment: Jesus coming down from heaven, his feet landing on Mount Olive (just east of Jersulem) to rescue his people from the nations of the earth that have come up against Jersulem to destroy it.

In his Psalm, David says "the righteous shall rejoice when he seeth the vengeance". The righteous are happy. What are they happy about? Does it have anything to do with a big table and a meal? They're celebrating because they had been left forlorn in a dark world and they suddenly see their salvation draw nigh at hand.

Yes, it brings up the question: why do we have paintings of a formal, prim-&-proper, banquet table? How much have we missed the point of what God is saying? Its not even people that are called to the marriage supper, its birds. And there are no napkins involved. Birds eating the flesh of soldiers is as messy as it gets. Jesus on a horse "treading the winepress" of God's wrath, he washes his feet in their blood, his garments have so much splattered on them they look as if they've been dipped in blood.

I know there are lots crocheted pillows with the words "Marriage Supper of the Lamb" next to flowers and such. Unfortunately we've turned a heartpounding event into something utterly benign and ridiculous.

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